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Because what would a science story be without adding in a little morality lesson, right?

sigh.

<rant>When did we start doing this? Did it begin with the talking animals from Disney? Carl Sagan and his desire to reach out to the masses? At some point we've so mingled drama and science that even a Nature science writer can't tell a science story without adding in a bit of either anthropomorphism or a morality play, or both.

You know, science isn't that dull on its own. It happens to be quite fascinating. Even without all the theatrics.</rant>

Apologies. Must be Grumpy Old Guy Day again.



There are all sorts of lovely lessons and inspirations to be found in Science. I don't think there's anything wrong in that.

Disney? Ha! Ever read Aesop's fables? Native American Coyote stories? Moralizing is super ancient.

You do know that Science is the child of Alchemy, right? And that is nothing but gnostic moralizing, the pursuit of "gold" was actually the pursuit of a pure soul. By what means can we ensure our own place in heaven? How can we hack God with what's around us?

Part of the parcel of the human condition is pareidolia and nearly constant anthropomorphism. Personally I'm of the opinion that our swollen egos and reflex projection of our internal states on others and the outside world is the double edged sword by which we've staked our claim to our survival (and possibly our self destruction).


Yeah, I was kidding... the article doesn't imply any relevance to humans here. It just meant that once predators evolved to be ambulatory, prey either followed suit or became extinct.


That's why plants are moving so fast now.


I sense sarcasm, but Geologically speaking you are correct.

Bamboo is a grass and grows fantastically quick. Ancient trees, not so fast. Also, flowers.


Plants are, by definition, not prey.

For actual prey, effective movement is an evolutionary advantage; even if there are other useful adaptations as well.


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prey :

    3. A living thing that is eaten by another living thing.


That definition is at best imprecise and at worst inaccurate. The discussion page even shows someone objecting to that definition for the very same reason we are having this discussion.

The terms predator and prey are defined to describe predator-prey relationships, which are distinct (though similar) relationships to those of a cow eating grass or a bunny eating a carrot. Your definition of prey would include every single organism on Earth and necessitate a definition of predator that would include nearly all heterotrophs, excluding only some decomposers. Such definitions wouldn't be useful.


And now you want me to read the article too?!?

Dang kids!!! (shakes fist in air)

Apologies. I took what you said literally and did not read the article. Many thanks for coming back and explaining my error to me.




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