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No worries. I am old and started on the Internet in 1986. So use to it.

My only issue with negative Google posts is only to be fair. There is so many things today that are common place because of Google and their generosity in sharing their secrets.

Giving away basically Map/reduce and GFS and a big one is Borg and just so many other things. Plus all the open source.

That should be praised. Think a lot of the issues around Google of late are related to social politics. That is fine but should not bleed over into technology type things.

Someone has an issue in them firing Damore then say that but not that Google sucks at engineering or something like that.

Same with their business model primarily being ads. You might hate that which is fine but that does not mean they suck at engineering.



AWS's UX is better than GCP in most aspects. You should be transparent about the fact that you work for Google. They did not "give away" Map/Reduce, they simply published a paper but that paradigm had already been in use. iOS's security is miles ahead of Android. Have you tried installing a notepad app on android until recently? How many permissions have you had to give up?


Do not work at Google. But would be cool if I did. I am actually old and retired. Do not think they hire too many old people like me.

But do suspect I will eventually have kids that work there or hopefully. I have 8 kids and a couple very good at math. My wife's father was an engineer as I was trained as an engineer so not surprising.

My oldest has graduated CS but does not have the passion I had so works at a pretty sleepy enterprise doing Java. But my next son just finished his junior year and he is crazy smart. Also studying CS with an emphasis in AI. He has the ability and think the passion. Driving him home from University last week he was pretty beat up by his AI classes. Had to give a bit of a pep talk.

Yes Google shared a paper on Map/Reduce as well as GFS and so many other things. Those papers gave away their "secrets" on how they do things. Same with how they use containers and Borg to manage their workloads. There is so many others and could go on and on.

I have never seen a tech company give back as much as Google. I would love to debate it and use facts to compare if there is anyone else close? The Amazon Dynamo paper was a fantastic give back but that is still well short of what Google gave back.

Heck Amazon uses Android still to run almost all their hardware. Where Google gave Android away to everyone.

On Android and security. It is a very different thing to support a wide variety of hardware that is not in your control versus Apple controlling the entire stack. I personally have a Pixel 2 XL and feel confident it will be as secure as my iPhone which I also use but less and less. More to share location in iMessages with my kids when on holiday than anything else. My iPhone is more of an iMessage phone. Even have the kids off of facetime and now using Duo.

Another great example is the Google WiFi. We can see the recent router security hack that hit so many companies but if you have a Google WiFi you are pretty comfortable that you are safe from such attacks. Google just built in much better security than any other router I am aware of.

Then on desktop ChromeOS is really the most secure machine you can buy. Just take a look at how Google implemented GNU/Linux on the Pixel Book versus MS adding some GNU/Linux support.

The Google approach is far more secure. The GNU/Linux applications separated by containers and then the entire thing using the hardware sand boxing. That is a far more secure approach.


There was one other topic wanted to address with you. I listen to a lot of podcasts and watch a lot of tech videos on YouTube. Plus went to Google I/O last year.

I am constantly amazed at the grace of Googlers. That should have been your first clue I was not a Googler.

They have every reason to be cocky but they are not. Either it is done in the hiring process or training or maybe both.

I would love if any googlers read this post if they would explain where it comes from?




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