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I make a similar product, with a smaller screen and at a lower price point.

It’s very cool what you have done, let’s maybe collaborate or join forces?

My product is an e-paper calendar:

https://shop.invisible-computers.com/products/invisible-cale...



Hi! This looks like a useful product at a good price point. Are you based in Germany? How come you only ship to Australia, Canada, China, India, UK and USA?

Also, you should look through your privacy policy. Its straight up copy/pasted from Shopifys template now with all the "ADD CASES THAT APPLY FOR YOUR STORE", "REMOVE THIS TEXT IF THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO YOUR STORE" text remaining. And apparently you sell your customers information to display targeted ads?


No, I don’t sell my customers information.

I will fix the privacy policy.

Selling in the EU comes with very expensive compliance needs. CE alone costs 10000 Euro.

I would love to do it but since I’m bootstrapping I need to earn some money first.


Thanks for the answers! I hope that you will be able to sell in the EU. CE is good consumer protection but it is unfortunate that it creates such a hurdle for small companies to sell their products.

Please let us know if/when you can sell it locally. I'm very interested in getting one for my kitchen wall.


Can it display arbitrary stuff? Maybe whatever is streaming over the network?


You can point it to any url on the web, with a JPEG or a PNG of the right resolution.

It will poll that URL a few times per minute and display the image.


Can you disable the online integration features? Ie no google login, just be dumb and display what i tell it?

Second question, any thoughts on if this could run off of battery? Eink tends to be so low power, i'd love this type of product with a wallhang and periodic charge. Thoughts?

The price point is great!


You still need to in to the companion app because the device needs the online backend for computing the render.

But on iOS you can log in with apple. And there is no need to pair with google calendar if you use the image url feature:

https://www.invisible-computers.com/invisible-calendar/image...

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Batteries drive up the cost for certification and shipping. I think a battery works better together with a bigger, more expensive display, where these costs are less of a concern and which you cannot place on a stand.

(Even though you can definitely hang my display up on the wall and if you don’t have a socket nearby, you can plug it into a battery pack)

Sorry if that’s a lot of text but I think about this stuff every day :D

Hard decisions!


> You still need to in to the companion app because the device needs the online backend for computing the render.

Right, but that could be fully in my network if i understand correctly.

> But on iOS you can log in with apple. And there is no need to pair with google calendar if you use the image url feature:

This works, but i'd really like a way to do this without any cloud-y features. As dumb as possible. Especially for low cost devices like this where i'm paranoid of it being "cheap because they sell my data" sort of thing.

> (Even though you can definitely hang my display up on the wall and if you don’t have a socket nearby, you can plug it into a battery pack)

This is exactly what i was hoping for! I don't mind buying the battery pack separately. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't hard wired to a wall plug, etc.

In the future if you could try to allocate space or hooks or anything to support this use case that would be amazing. Ie some little hooks on the back where a user could ziptie a battery back to it would be great!

I think i'm going to give one of these a try. If it works well for my headless use case i'd probably love a handful of these things, they're very close to what i've wanted for years. A lot of little low power displays around the house that work like picture frames. A hybrid to "modern life" and "old life" if you will. I love Eink


I believe many people hate that power cable... Why not leveraging the low power consumption of eink? I hope you guys plannign one with battery.


I really like it! And it's affordable too.


Is that an eBook with custom software and a frame? The price point is indeed very tempting.


The screen is off-the shelf, but the rest is all custom, including the PCB that's driving the screen, the wooden frame and the brass back plate.


Quick question: brass looks fantastic but on a back plate..? Why that material choice? (I’m sure there was a good reason, just curious)


Plastic is actually more expensive in small numbers… and I want the thing to have a bit of a low-tech, retro feel. Plastic wouldn’t work for that.


Very much want (especially at that price point.) I've signed up to be notified!


Thank you for your comment, it made me notice that I sold out. I just added some more inventory, but it may take a little bit longer to ship than usual, because I still need to assemble those units...


Can you just display a random webpage instead of calendar?


Looks really cheap too.


Hmmmm, trying to see your point of view, what I would do differently....

If one is going to use plywood for the frame, maybe a nice "multi-ply" plywood (Europly, Apple Ply, etc.). The Japanese kids make speakers from plywood and love to show off the "plys" because they use the good multi-ply stuff.

Frame could be cut with more CNC precision? (Looking at the inner cut in particular).

Maybe the stand should be cut from extruded aluminum of some interesting cross section rather than the Scrabble-tile-holder-like block of wood.

Given those changes I would raise the price as well to $199 and think nothing of that.

(Also, would like to dial down the refreshes — or at the very least, not refresh if the pixels are unchanged. Unless somehow they are able to do invisible refreshes on the e-ink display — 'cause e-ink refreshes sure can be distracting and ugly.)


Hi, those are nice ideas, thank you!

The refreshes definitely only happen if pixels change - did I write something somewhere that suggested otherwise? If you let me know I can fix it :)


A comment about it polling every so many minutes or so. I misinterpreted that as refreshing.


The cable looks cheap indeed, although otherwise you have the trouble of keeping it charged. But other wise "cheap"/simple look imo is a selling point.


:D

It’s a matter of taste I guess




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